This post is just some random thoughts on the SPIN info war mess.
Lots of people dismiss social media as trivial, but Twitter is where the American journalists and pundits hang-out and where most of the Dem SPIN attacks and Trump’s counter-attacks launch. It’s the current epicenter of the scorched earth SPIN information war.
I know I mentioned this repeatedly, on my blog, during the 2015-2016 GOP Insurgency primary phase, that I encountered gang-up attacks on Disqus comment sections, at several right-wing sites, when I posted comments explaining why I thought Trump was a faux Republican and unfit to be president. I kept saying these gang-up attacks were eerily reminiscent of what happened in 1998 on the Excite message boards, where groups of new commenters descended on the Clinton impeachment boards at Excite, to bully and try to harass the Republican and conservative posters into silence.
About the time this happened on Disqus, the hoopla started about Russian bot trolling activities on social media. I spent a good bit of time trying to, in my amateurish way, sift through follower and following lists of the groups that showed up attacking any person who posted an anti-Trump post. I know I mentioned a lot of details .
As the election moved on, the hoopla started in the media about the dangerous “alt-right” and then it was “Russian collusion”. This alt-right hysteria propelled by the Left and mainstream media seemed to me, again, eerily reminiscent of the 90s, with the Clinton/Dem/media hysteria about “right-wing militias” after Ruby Ridge in ’92, Waco in ’93 and then OKC in ’95.
On those Excite message boards, there were some posters, who expressed some opinions that sounded like the stuff spouted by some militia groups I’d seen in news reports on TV and read about in the news. I engaged in conversation a few times with a few of the less radical ones, expressing that everyone needs to follow the law. I tried to engage in friendly debate with far-left peeps too on those Excite message boards. There was never anything remotely like friendly political debate in online political forums, that I saw. Even on those Excite message boards, I suspect many of the commenters were professional political pundits, activists and people involved in the news media – similar to the current Twitter crowd of flamethrowers and spinners.
In December 2018, the NY Times ran a story exposing an internal report they obtained, about Dem operatives created fake Russian bots during the Moore campaign.
Well, the Dems SPIN ops in the 90s were imitating Russian tactics too. SPIN info war operates in a way that strikes me as antithetical to American free speech principles – repetitive messaging to control the news media messaging. The SPIN effort includes hyping (spinning) polling which is manufactured information cascades, which result from the flooding of repetitive political messaging attacks. The spinning of polling is intended to marginalize dissenting views and casting them as being “out of the mainstream”. And of course there are the aggressive orchestrated high-tech media lynch mobs, engaged in vicious character assassinations.
About this Dem op in the Moore campaign:
“The secret project, which had a budget of just $100,000 and was carried out on Facebook and Twitter, was revealed after the New York Times obtained an internal report detailing the efforts.
“We orchestrated an elaborate ‘false flag’ operation that planted the idea that the Moore campaign was amplified on social media by a Russian botnet,” the internal report said. It also took credit for “radicalizing Democrats with a Russian bot scandal” after experimenting “with many of the tactics now understood to have influenced the 2016 elections.””
Here’s the most amazing part of this report, it states Dem political operatives were launching bots that looked like Russian bots, so they could spin it (amplify to use McKew’s fav phrase) that Russians were helping the Moore campaign:
“One participant in the project reportedly was Jonathon Morgan, the chief executive of New Knowledge, a firm that wrote a report – released by the Senate Intelligence Committee earlier this week – about Russia’s social media operations in the 2016 election and its efforts to hurt Hillary Clinton and help Donald Trump.”
“The Alabama project was funded by liberal billionaire and LinkedIn co-founder Reid Hoffman who gave $100,000 to the cause, according to the Times. Hoffman is one of Silicon Valley’s top donors to the Democrats, donating $7 million to various groups and campaigns in the last election cycle.
The money trickled down through American Engagement Technologies, a firm run by Mikey Dickerson who was appointed by former President Barack Obama to lead the newly-created United States Digital Service.”
Sorry for relying on this FOX report, but I do not have a NY Times subscription and have read my free articles for the month.
“Billionaire Reid Hoffman apologized Wednesday for funding a group linked to a “highly disturbing” effort that spread disinformation during last year’s Alabama special election for U.S. Senate, but he said he was not aware that his money was being used for this purpose.”
“Hoffman’s statement is his first acknowledgement of his ties to a campaign that adopted tactics similar to those deployed by Russian operatives during the 2016 presidential election. In Alabama, the Hoffman-funded group allegedly used Facebook and Twitter to undermine support for Republican Roy Moore and boost Democrat Doug Jones, who narrowly won the race. Hoffman, an early Facebook investor and the co-founder of LinkedIn, expressed support for a federal investigation into what happened, echoing Jones’ position from last week.”
“But the statement left key facts unaddressed, including a full accounting of everyone who crafted and executed the campaign. The effort was the subject of a presentation in September to a group of progressive technology experts who met in downtown Washington to discuss electoral tactics, according to documents from that meeting obtained by The Washington Post and one of the attendees.”
Bold-face highlights are mine
Seems like some of the “experts” the Dems and mainstream news media put forth to report on SPIN information warfare (computational propaganda is the term the experts use) have a lot of disturbing connections to Dem operatives engaged in, umm, aggressive, Dem computational propaganda efforts …
Computational propaganda is the same SPIN info war the Dems have been waging in the media since the 1990s. PERIOD. The Republicans, until 2016, were light years behind the Dem political SPIN operations. Silicon Valley is liberal Dem territory in America, so the tech “experts” in that industry, whom our government and media rely on for expertise on the problem, are um, liberal Dems with a lot of connections to big Dem political operatives.
There needs to be a thorough investigation into the entire “computational propaganda” business run by both Dems and Republicans, but I am pretty sure investigating the Dems vast, high-tech smear operations and decades old lock on SPIN information war in America, would require a massive crawl through the corrupt big money peeps in the Democratic upper-echelon and high-level Dem political figures – a vast RICO type investigation, for sure.
We have Dem foxes guarding our digital chicken coop and then when anyone catches them devouring a chicken, the Dem foxes are entrusted to “investigate” and provide the “experts” to explain it in the news media… “nothing to see here”…”dangerous, right-wing extremists”… “Russian bots everywhere”…”ack.. Trump the Authoritarian”…
Beam me up Scottie, there’s no intelligent life left here…
Added Thought, January 28, 2019:
The crawl through the “computational propaganda” business, especially with Dems, would have to encompass delving into illegal leaking of classified information to the media, especially by former Obama administration officials… paging John Brennan, Comey, and Clapper, anyone…
Adam Schiff, where are you???
Added Thought, January 28, 2019: Googled this New Knowledge company quoted above: : Jonathon Morgan, the chief executive of New Knowledge, a firm that wrote a report – released by the Senate Intelligence Committee earlier this week – about Russia’s social media operations in the 2016 election and its efforts to hurt Hillary Clinton and help Donald Trump.
New Knowledge claims to be an “information integrity company”… I quote from their site:
“Founded In 2015
Headquartered in Austin, TX. We were the first organization outside the U.S. intelligence community to identify Russia’s campaign to influence the 2016 presidential election. Our leadership has testified before Congress, advised the State Department and the NSA, and worked in counter-terrorism. As the information war escalates, we believe more than ever that our responsibility is to provide an advanced, reliable disinformation solution to national security agencies, responsible leaders, and trusted brands.”
What the heck, the chief executive of the company the Senate Intelligence Committee entrusted to write a report on Russian social media operations in 2016, is involved in a domestic disinformation social media operation, launching fake Russian bots promoting Moore and then a media campaign claiming Russian bots are trying to help Moore’s campaign… That’s the truth, folks.
Added Thought, January 29, 2019:
Since 1999, I have been trying to unravel the Dem political operative SPIN networks (computational propaganda). I’ve gotten pretty good at identifying their spin messaging and when new spin messaging or one of their new smear campaigns is launching, but I have never had any means to unravel the networks back to the top – who are the political operatives behind it – the politicians, big money Dems and operatives running the show.
What happened to me in 1998, had to come from the highest levels of the Clinton administration, because there is no way on earth that retired general, who hates me, would have been involved in an attack like that, unless he believed he was receiving legitimate intelligence that I had done something wrong. I don’t have so much as a speeding ticket and I was (and still am) a law-abiding homemaker, Army wife. I never belonged to any political organizations, have never owned a firearm and my group affiliations have been things like being a Red Cross volunteer and belonging to my local quilt guild. There’s likely never going to be a way to prove what happened to me in 1998.
Trust me, I can empathize with Brett Kavanaugh finding himself in the middle of an orchestrated smear campaign and helpless to defend against the Dem’s media spinners, who aid and abet the Dem’s computational propaganda efforts constantly. The media won’t even admit they display “bias”, so unless these networks are exposed, they assuredly would deny corrupt media collusion participating in vicious smear campaigns.
There was reporting during the Moore smear campaign, meant to bolster the smear campaign’s credibility, that the Washington Post sent over 30 reporters to Alabama to search for “victims” and to trash Moore as a chasing after young teen girls perv. Those reporters were digging for anyone who would trash Moore, to add to their SPIN smear ammo. Gloria Allred, longtime Dem. insider and feminist activist lawyer, descended on Alabama too… to represent “victims” (this was the same scenario used after the Access Hollywood leak orchestrated Dem/media smear campaign). #Resist is an orchestrated smear campaign to take down Trump, by any means necessary – that’s the truth.
The Moore/Dem fakeRussian bots case and especially this Covington/Phillips case are recent and unraveling the Dem’s computational propaganda (SPIN) networks involved in these two cases could be a way to start dismantling the wholesale public corruption within the Dem’s SPIN info war network – their vast computational propaganda operation, that has been operating since the 1990s.
32 responses to “No Intelligent Life Left Here”
“Our leadership has, … advised the NSA,”
Gee, I wonder how well that went … or how well it was received?
What can I say, JK, just beam me up… ROFL…
I did a bit of selective target tweeting last night and this morning – comments to peeps, like Andrew McCarthy, Sen. Cotton, etc… Done all I can do, now I have laundry to do and some errands to run… Later:-)
Probably needn’t bother directing Mr. McCarthy’s way; from my reading of his stuff I think maybe he was in the “convinced sumpin’ screwy going on” camp before even you or me were. Well maybe not you …
Senator Cotton’s getting your stuff (in addition to my being a resident of the Senator’s home state and having his numbers in my speed-dial list … lol) probably wouldn’t hurt – tweet him again LB when it comes nearer FISA Renewal time too. Just make sure the tweet mentions “law must safeguard US citizens being outed but if they are Somebody SHALL Go To Jail.”
My wondering about New Knowledge’s “effectiveness” advising [lobbying] NSA arises out of my remembering just what a contrary lot those folks can be when it comes to “to get along – go along” that’s printed on the cover of and listed as #1 Rule of the ‘So You’re About To Live/Work In Washington DC’ guidebook.
Just one example from recent history (sorry but I’m not a subscriber to either WaPo or the NYT and have already hit my limit of free articles):
“[NSA Chief Admiral] Rogers wasn’t sure enough to sign off with high confidence so that left Brennan, Clapper, and Comey to” sign off on:
Click to access ICA_2017_01.pdf
(A compare & contrast between what’s analysis deserving of ‘high confidence’ and what isn’t, and better, an explanation of the various reliabilities one might assign any such material is found in Annex B [page 13] on the pdf.)
Thanks for these links JK, I should be reading that ICA Assessment tonight, but I am so weary of reading reports and studies – think, I’ll relax and watch Junk Journal videos on YouTube or another recent favorite, this one lady’s homesteading videos – Appalachia’s Homestead with Patara. I’m learning about taking care of chickens and a dairy cow, without having to step in any manure or get my hands dirty, LOL.
I imagine LB, it was only moments ago you would’ve found yourself thinking to yourself, “Well at least there’s the one thing I can always depend on, JK will never post a link to anything Andrew Sullivan ever wrote!”
“It just beggars belief that the same liberals who fret about “micro-aggressions” for 20-somethings were able to see 16-year-olds absorbing the worst racist garbage from religious bigots … and then express the desire to punch the kids in the face.”
(I admit – somewhat sheepishly – it wasn’t so many minutes ago I’d thought the same thing.)
Thanks, JK, I had read that Sullivan piece and if I wasn’t so engrossed in the “orchestrated computational propaganda” part of this situation, I’d have already mentioned some of the very good pieces about the cultural problem with online mobs of people getting incited by a video, without waiting for any evidence or context.
It’s not just our politics that is a trainwreck, it’s our culture. The Ophraization of society melded into the news media/infotainment fixation of using random videos, of unknown people, to incite a media feeding frenzy and hours upon hours of TV punditry “national conversations”. It fuels a bandwagon spin effort advancing the media-approved narrative on the video’s meaning. These videos invariably are used as a liberal media audio-visual teaching aids to instruct the low information masses on the proper PC lessons to be derived from the video.
Kevin Williamson wrote a good pieces on this Covington national disgrace too:
As i was reading something else LB, I happened to notice this and thought it might be of some use for you.
Be “interesting” for you too to maybe check out the comments on that post, which I’m doing now – for me at least, they’re enlightening.
Thanks JK, Twitter’s relevance lies in who still uses it (Trump & the media), not in total users, I suspect. It will go the way of the dinosaurs eventually, as will Trump, but who knows where the media will move next to congregate online, lol.
Pressed for time these next few days (relative relief from very cold, very rainy etc) but I’lltry to get links to get Capt Hendrix’ rpts he sent me…one thing you probably will have noted in the prppub narrative’s that old (traditional) notion that Only the CO of any asset’s ultimately being “responible” isn’t really such a hot idea anymore given the pol’s new way of micromanaging everything (except that is – lol?- taking responsibility)
But I noted sumpin else you might file away for some futue post:
Sorry LB, teensy tiny laptop keyboard mutter mutter
Thanks JK, some of these Dems are on quite a roll reacting to Trump… Eliminating the Electoral College has about as much chance of happening as their New Green Deal.
Looks to be a good night to watch PBS.
Something going on here? I know “it has repeatedly been alleged” the riff raff were targeting vulnerable populations with the intent of “sowing discord”?
Asking your Experience because as i’m “pretty sure” I wondered the ummm, probabilities as I’m “pretty sure” I called your attention to this a couple of years ago:
No need for haste, matter of fact LB, I’d Prefer your considered opinion.
Only the gold LB, only the gold.
Today is an appt day – had my husband to a doctor’s appt this morning and I have one this afternoon, but I’m thinking about your question JK.
If you have time, JK, WOTR has a couple more interesting articles:
From that last link LB, a sentence (last section0 stands out:
“They will need to be ruthlessly and relentlessly objective in assessing their own performance, in order to ensure that they learn the right lessons.”
Good luck with that is about all I’d care to offer the conversations bound to ensue as we embark on what’s sure to be endless post mortems since it seems we’re still debating the merits of MacArthur’s drive on the Yalu.
But on Afghanistan specifically one thing GW and by extension, everybody’s whose come after – when a technologically advanced military gets the mission to “destroy” a bunch of people living in the Neolithic, it’s not a wise course to set the goal higher than anything other than setting the enemy back to the Paleolithic – and a what cost?
“Nation building”? A fool’s errand – any halfwit student of History could explain to Congress’ various military committees that “civilization as we’ve come to recognize it” wasn’t at all inevitable until the Neolithic had progressed well into the Bronze Age. I mean it would’ve been helpful to ask ourselves whether bombing to smithereens a bunch of mudbrick hovels was gonna accomplish much unless we disrupted beyond repair the supply lines for making more mud bricks. Hard for me to see much progress we’ve done in denying dirt and rainfall to the enemy.
And currently – “guys (and gals) have set their eyes on Dayr az Zahr” as being somehow the linchpin of success when – at least you and I – all know that Abu Musab al-Zarqawi feller took to infiltrating foreign fighters through there (as documented by ‘who’da thunkit’ US!’ in the well-thumbed CTC The Sinjar Files report of 2004) … I guess the ‘guys ‘n gals of the smart-set really do take us for idiots.
Whatever his manifold faults – only the sort of guy atop the food chain now stands a snowball’s chance of extricating us outta the hole “everybody else” (Rs & Ds) seems determined we keep digging.
I’m still thinking about this, JK. Hopefully, I’ll get a blog post written soon about pertaining to this and some other ponderings, I’ve had about the woke Left’s seeing a “Red Scare” everywhere.
Took a closer look at the first link LB, felt I had too because it triggered a “looks similar to sumpin’ I already heard” … longish excerpt:
“There have been at least nine failed efforts by the U.S. military to establish irregular forces in Afghanistan since that initial meeting in November 2001. The long list of U.S. military failures with irregular forces in Afghanistan includes: the Afghan National Auxiliary Police (who were given 10 days of training, an AK47, and a uniform, and then cast adrift); … … What these programs all had in common—besides failure, getting a lot of people killed, and adding nothing to Afghan security—was that all of the forces created were notionally under the control of the Afghan Ministry of Interior Affairs, which Afghanistan’s own President calls the “heart of corruption.”
“Sigmund Freud observed that individuals are compelled to repeat bad experiences rather than to learn from them. This certainly seems to be true of the U.S. Army, for which “lessons learned” is often an oxymoron. … Historically, Afghan soldiers have always served close to home. Every successful Afghan Army since 1900 has been built on local foundations. Ironically, this was the very reason why the U.S. Army was built entirely on state-based regiments from its founding until the experiment of the 82d “All American” Division in World War I. The 82d “All American” Division was the first U.S. Army unit to test the novel idea of mixing men from different regions of the country in the same fighting unit—130 years after transparent democracy was successfully established in a fully-literate America.”
“In the United States, from the American Revolution through World War I, men from Massachusetts wanted to fight alongside other men from the same county in Massachusetts, not another county or another state, and the U.S. Army was organized accordingly. However, ANA soldiers who have rarely, if ever, left their home districts before are obliged to fight next to soldiers from the other side of the country. The notion that 8 weeks of learning to wear shoes with laces and march in step would forge these strangers into cohesive fighting kandaks was wishful thinking at best.”
“Afghan police today are being killed at a shocking rate. Approximately 17 Afghan police officers die every day in combat in Afghanistan, more than 6,000 in the last year alone.6 The bifurcated security architecture has crippled, and continues to cripple, the war against the Taliban. It consists of two different competing security ministries with two completely different chains of command, logistics systems, and incompatible communication systems. The two roughly equally sized forces, the ANA and the ANP, rarely even communicate with each other, much less cooperate. Indeed, the two sides are more often antagonists rather than allies. There have been many incidents of them shooting at each other rather than at the Taliban.”
And the state of “Secure Afghanistan” after our near twenty years of blowing up mudbricks:
Hardly reassuring to my mind …
Too much political capital, on both sides of the aisle, and too many top generals’ legacies have become inextricably tied to the “War on Terror”, as you and I both know JK. There are scores of their minions, cushily ensconced in academia, writing the “smart” takes on the past two decades, so anything resembling an honest assessment is futile. Besides that, I doubt most of these people even read all the follow-on after-action reports. It’s like everyone wants a few hollow, happy horseshit talking points as media spin filler… until the news moves to another hot topic later that day. The reports get filed away in the “We Never Learn” folder, except for a few oddballs, like you and me, who actually read through reports…
Trump doesn’t know anything about military matters, but he does realize the military establishment blows a lot of smoke up his behind. He might be the one to say, enough is enough.
You reckon my friend, that folder you’ve called attention to really has at the top a tab labelled, “We Never Learn”?
For my money, seeing as how we’ve done these many repeats of, pretty much, the same thing I’m betting the one at the front of the file cabinet (top shelf no doubt) is tabbed, “Happy Horseshit Volume 2019.”
That is if, the person who’s the active file-clerk was even born at the Volume 2001’s getting filed. … That clerk responsible for the first file has probably made at least Major General by now and is on the fast-track for the Joint Chiefs – emphasis on “Joint.”
(The mind-altering kind – not the functioning assembly kind.)
I didn’t want to cast undue aspersions on either the author or the site I was referring to above LB (especially on your leading post) … well maybe some few specific commentors. Anyway here’s the article first which I have read and all of its 200+ thread comments. To give that site its due and proper credit though, I notice as I’ve just visited the place they’ve another post up which title appears to … maybe/hopefully be an effort toward integrity – I’ll update you:
That was from Friday. Below the latest.
JK, Please don’t hold your breath waiting for some hint of journalistic integrity. S.E. Cupp tweeted berating Trumpsters: “The giddiness among Trumpsters over the Smollett news is gross. This story is awful. He allegedly abused police resources, exploited raw divisions in this country, and made it harder for every victim of a hate crime to report. This is sad no matter your politics.”
Her main focus was calling out Trumpsters for behaving badly, even though it wasn’t just Trump, who was maligned in this hoax – it was Trump supporters… again.
I won’t – hold my breath that is.
I well recall when the Covington boys narrative failed utterly all was not lost, out of that came “the MAGA hat is now the equivalent of a Klan hood!” and by extension …
I’ve never heard of S.E. Cupp – I wonder if he ever heard of Tawana Brawley?
(I find myself rather wishing I could avoid from now to November 8th 2020.)
S.E Cupp is a she – she’s a very vocal conservative NeverTrumper, who preaches about Trump’s threat to American culture, on CNN these days.
Okay, now I see who she is. on another note, I hope you haven’t already seen this – all the biggie SOMs get billing:
Thanks, JK. Hadn’t seen this one. I actually have seen Downfall. The entire cast was very good, but these parodies, omg, they sure have gotten wider viewing than the movie ever will, I suspect.
Using my girlfriend’s f&b I put 4 comments on a root-link. As
ireckonIWhiteDevil or somesuch … be interesting to watch from here on out whether any/all appear on this thread:
I suppose I [we] shall see how well I am received or, if.
If I am received – expecting a sh*tstorm though – mighty presumptuous of myself. I’m supposing myself to be a Bot … of some sort.
I didn’t see your comments , but your choice of user name alone will likely get your comments deleted. That site is specifically intended to be an echochamber for liberal black viewpoints only.
From years of experience commenting, most liberal news and political sites have a zero tolerance policy toward views that do not align with theirs. Odds are your comments will be deleted, if they do not align with the writer’s. Many conservative sites do the same thing, but often conservative comment threads are filled with gang-up hit teams to marginalize anti-Trump comments… especially those perceived to be from an NeverTrump commenter.
When I first began posting political commentary on social media back in 1998. I had this starry-eyed notion that it would be fun to have lively, good-natured political debates, but I learned, lol.
All my comments remain pending however I see which is mine – and links looks like:
ireckonIDevilwhite > Jay Connor 2/18/19 11:55am
Reckon a case might be made?
Some kin of your’s LB? I read she lives in Pennsylvania:
No relation, JK, lol. She’s quite a determined pint-size reporter there. I kind of wonder about her parents allowing her on social media at 12 years old though, but I guess I’m kind of old-fashioned.